Friday, February 12, 2010

Is falling in love real or false-according skeptics-it has to be cientific, so what is scientifc about love.?

or hate or worry or guilt, shame


they are not real, or just stupid thing human invent, we should all be logical and think like spock on star trackIs falling in love real or false-according skeptics-it has to be cientific, so what is scientifc about love.?
Love is not a feeling it is an act of your will.


Takes many years to learn to love someone how can you love someone you do not know?


The butterflies in the stomach attraction in the early stages is not love and these last from between 3 to 6 months and are gone.


If you have a rapor with a person that is a good start.


Along with friendship as it is a lot harder to walk away from a friend when the road get a little bumpy.





Take care!Is falling in love real or false-according skeptics-it has to be cientific, so what is scientifc about love.?
Such questions are not in the domain of things science claims to be able to discover. Love (and other emotion) is an experience that is not available to deep examination using empirical methods. At all.





Even though I can be a strict materialist, I still would not say that love is either false or true, because in a materialist world view, the question is nonsense - it can't be asked about a private, personal experience. It'd be sort of like asking what evolution feels like.
Consider the Middle Way/Path.





Please read the following: the Middle Path view





on Love vs. Attachment. Thank You.





Love vs. Attachment





What is the world is the difference between loving a person and being attached to them ?


Love is the sincere wish for others to be happy, and to be free from suffering.


Having realistically recognized others' kindness as well as their faults, love is always focused on the other persons welfare. We have No ulterior motives to fulfull our self-interest, or to fulfill our desires; to love others simply because they exist.


Attachment, on the other hand, exaggertes others' good qualitities and makes us crave to be with them. When we're with them, we're happy, but when we're separated from them, we are often miserable. Attachment is linked with expectations of what others should be or do.


Is love as it is usually understood in our society


really love ? or attachment ? or even possibly for some, only lust.


Let us examine this a bit more. Generally we are attracted to people either because they have qualities we value or because they help us in some way. If we observe our own thought processes mindfully, and carefully - we'll notice that we look for specific qualities in others.


Some of these qualities we find attractive, others are those our parents, or society value.


We examine someone's looks, body, education,


financial situation, social status. This is how most of us decide on whether or not the person holds any true value to us.


In addition, we judge people as worthwhile according to how they relate to us. If they help us, praise us, make us feel secure, listen to what we have to say, care for us when we are sick or depressed, we consider them good people, and it is this type of people we are most likely to be more attracted to.





But this is very biased, for we judge them only in terms of how they relate to ';us';, as if we are the most important person in the world.


After we've judged certain people to be good for us, whenever we see them it appears to us as if goodness is coming from them, but if we are more aware, we recognize that we have projected this goodness onto them.





Desiring to be with the people alot who make us feel good, we become emotional yo-yo's -


when we're with these people, we're Up, when we're not with these people, we're Down.





Furthermore, we form fixed concepts of what our relationships with those people will be and thus have expectations of them. When they do not live up to our expectations of them, we're very disappointed, or may become angry !


We want them to change so that they will they will match what we think they are. But our projections and expectations come from our own minds, not from the other people.


Our problems arise not because others aren't


who we thought they we're, but because we mistakenly thought they were something they


aren't.


Checklist: ';I Love You if __________ ';


What we call love is most often attachment.


It is actually a disturbing attitude that overestamates the qualities of another person.


We then cling to tightly to that person, thinking our happiness depends on that person.


';Love, on the other hand, is an open and very calm, relaxed attitude. We want someone to be happy, and free from suffering simply because they exist. While attachment is uncontrolled and much too sentimental, Love is direct and powerful. Attachment obscures our judgment and we become impatient, angry, and impartial, helping only our dear one's and harming those who we don't like. Love builds up others, and clarifies our minds, and we


access a situation by thinking of the greatest good for everyone. Attachment is based on


selfishness, while Love is founded upon cherishing others, even those who do not look very appealing to the eyes. Love looks beyond


all the superficial appearences, and dwells on the fact that they are just like us: they want inner peace, happiness, and want to avoid suffering. If we see unattractive, dirty, ignorant people, we feel repulsed because our selfish minds watn to know attractive, intellectual, clean, and talented people. Love, on the other hand, never evaluates others by these superficial standards and looks much deeper into the person. Love recognizes that regardless of the others' appearances, their experience is the same as ours: they seek inner peace, to be happy, to be free from sufferings, and to do their best to avoid problems.


When we're attached, we're not mentally and emotionally free. We overly depend on and cling to another person to fulfill our mental and especially our emotional needs. We fear losing the person, feeling we'd be incomplete without him.


This does not mean that we should suppress our emotional needs or become aloof, alone and totally independent, for that too does not solve the problem. We must simply realize our unrealistic needs, and slowly seek to eliminate them. Some emotional needs may be so strong that they can't be dissolved immediately.


If we try to suppress them or pretend they do not exist, we become anxious, insecure, falling into a depression. In this case, we can do our best to fulfill our needs while simultaneously working gradually to subdue them.


';The core problem is we seek to be loved, rather than to love. We yearn to be understood by others rather than to understand them. In all honesty, our sense of emotional insecurities comes from the selfishness obscuring our own


minds. 'We can develop self-confidence by recognizing our inner potential to become a selfless human being with many, many magnificient qualities, then we'll develop a true and accurate feeling of self-confidence. And


then we'll seek to increase true love, without attachments, to increase compassion, to cultivate patience and understanding, as well as generousity, concentration and wisdom.'





'Under the influence of attachment we're bound by our emotional reactions to others. When they are nice to us, we're happy. When they ignore us, or speak sharply to us, we take it personally and are unhappy. But pasifying attachment doesn't mean we become hard-hearted. Rather, without attachment there will be space in our hearts and minds for genuine Affection and Impartial Love for them.


We'll be actively involved with them.


If we learn to subdue our attachments, we can most definately have successful friendships and personal relationships with others !! These relationships will be richer because of the freedom and respect - the relationships will be based on. We'll care about the happiness and the misery of all human beings equally, simply because everyone is the same in wanting and needing inner peace, happiness, and not wanting to suffer. However, our lifestyles and interests may be more compatible with those of some people more so than with others, and that is alright. In any case, our relationships will be based on mutual Love, mutual interests, and the wish to help each other in life.
love is scientific when you look at the chemicals involved in what makes you feel that way about a person.
I watched a documentary about this. scientists placed electrodes on the heads of thier subjects and showed them pictures of people. when the pictures of thier partners came up, parts of the brain became active which usually in normal circumstances (when not near thier loved partener) are not active. so now they say that they can scientifically prove if your partner is in love with you. if those parts of the brain don't fire, then he/she is lying. i wonder how long it will take to make this test available to the public. god knows i'd like to test that out!
none in this world know true love but the universal beauty and I. I've seen truth, and am in the way to reach it.
emotions are what make us human. They are a higher thought process, and I know for a fact that true love is not false. It's out there, and even though finding it can be a S.O.B. it's worth it in the end. We shouldn't let our emotions have complete control of our lives, but we shouldn't just disregard them either. A balance of emotion and logic is needed to be... well... I guess sane.

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