Friday, February 12, 2010

When did peace, love and tolerance of others become a false doctrine?

According to some, the message of peace brought by Christ is a false doctrine. Isn't it ironic that these same people say they revere the teachings of Christ and more than that worship him?When did peace, love and tolerance of others become a false doctrine?
Very ironic and they are very wrong. This world is so full of hardened hearts. The words, the teachings, mean nothing if not put to work and lived.


Pax Et Bonum,


DebraWhen did peace, love and tolerance of others become a false doctrine?
Sinyckel,


Probably around the time that Muslims started blowing people up.
It becomes a ';False Doctrine'; when used to condem others.


From what I have seen the majority of the ';followers'; convieniently forget three interesting Biblical points that Christ is purported to have said... Let he who is without Sin be the first to cast the stone, all have Sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.





In other words, don't judge, everyone is guilty of the same problem, and don't force your belief on others who do not want to hear it.
they've been that way since their creation. i'm sorry to say it but there can never be peace love and tolerance with people because they are always jealous, envious and afraid of what they do not know. everyone is a racist, the aim is to control those feelings and just get on with your life


and an add-up:


i am a christian myself and would like to remind people that before muslims started blowing up buildings there were those romanticized folks called the crusaders that did nothing else but to pillage rape and kill, so dont blame islam for what the fanatics do
Yep! You are absolutely correct. The bible says we know them by their fruits they bare.








A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit


Lk. 6.43, 44


15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.





16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?





17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.





18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.





19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mt. 3.10 · Lk. 3.9





20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mt. 12.33








I Never Knew You


Lk. 13.25-27


21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.





22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?





23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I prefer to worship Him.


He was perfect, not me.


I needed Him, because I wasn't perfect.


If I was perfect I wouldn't need Him.


If any one tries to follow the teachings of Jesus exactly, you will be miserable.


You can not be perfect. He was perfect, not you.
When the Republicans took power
I'm living proof that you don't have to believe in Jesus to believe in peace, love and tolerance. Well, tolerance at least...





There's a lot of other things about Jesus that I find false, but his morals are fine by me. And FYI, he's not the only man in history to ever preach about compassion and tolerance. Take away the ';Son of God'; title, how is he any different from Buddha? Or from Baha'ullah?
After independence from world war two.


When living human kind blindly kick the butts of our creator and threw our creator out into '; The street of London'; on planet earth.


Try and decode the lyrics of this song '; The street of London ';.


When living human kind wanted to be the Boss on planet earth.


That is what self independence is all about on planet earth.


Every year we celebrate the mess living human kind had created for themselves on planet earth.


Try and decode the lyrics of this song '; It's a mad, mad world'; out there on planet earth.


When living human kind with self lack of knowledge on the existence of our creator on planet earth.


But keep on telling planet earth on the greatness of our creator on planet earth.


Without even finding out ';Who are we'; on planet earth.
Christ did teach us care for our neighbors. The problem is that the Bible teaches us that sin is wrong also.





So there is a conflict. We are not to embrace sin as a lifestyle and we are also to show neighbors that we care for them.





We are not to show love and tolerance and neglect the teachings of the Bible.





We are also not to follow the teachings of the Bible and not show love to our neighbor.





This is difficult. Some Christians err on the side of love so much that they tolerate sin. Other Christians follow the Bible so rigidly that they neglect their neighbor by not showing love.





We are to preach Jesus, tell people of their sin, and show love.





Most of the time though, as soon as people hear that they are sinners...they think we are not showing love.





It is hard to convince people that talking about sin IS loving. It is caring. People like their sin and don't want to hear that it is wrong. They don't like being confronted.





They often want their sin and God...but they really can't. They have to choose. If they want God, then they will have to change. Most don't want to change...they just want God to bless them while they are doing exactly what he said not to do.





God doesn't bless that... sorry.
Peace and Love were taught by Jesus, and hold true today as do all His teachings.





Tolerance was not one of them. DO you think Jesus, or God for that matter was ever tolerant of sin, I think not. Was Jesus tolerant when He through the money changers out of the temple, or called the Pharisees white washed tombs, hypocrites, a brood of vipers???? Tolerance is something the world has tried to shove down our throats to make themselves feel better, because sin would no longer be sin. We are never to tolerate sin in any case, for any reason, ALL sin is punishable by death, and without the shed blood of Jesus we are all bound for Hell.
Peace that Jesus talked about in the Bible is never peace with evil, it is peace with God so if you are thinking that we Christian ought to accept things that the Bible says are evil, it won't happen. Jesus never taught tolerance, that is a worlly teaching. Jesus taught us to come out and separated ourselves (holiness). 14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, ';I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. 17 ';Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,'; says the Lord. ';AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you. 18 ';And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,'; Says the Lord Almighty.


Jesus also taught that ';Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness but rejoices in the truth.


Christ was always intolerant of evil and that has not changed.
Is it ironic how you dreamed up love and peace with agape love for all mankind?





Agape love is from Christians too Christians. Christians are not Muslim brother.





does the Holy Bible have to draw you a picture.?





What do you think separates Christians from others? duh








YOU. preach a false doctrine. The Word of God, is very real and very clear.





YOUR False doctrine comes from.


opposite of Eph:.


One Doctrine, One Body, One Spirit, One Faith, One Baptism, One Church, One Truth.





Islam and Christians are 180 diametrically opposed. You preach we are brothers? hahaha





Read the Bible my friend. You are very misled and misleading others.





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When the religion of Islam was founded.
That is a good question, one I needed to read. I was reading Darfur and building up hate.. Said drop a nuclear bomb on those people. That really wasn't a christian teaching.


Thank you
Do unto others as you would have them do to you ! When He said this we didn't have a group that would rather kill you as look at you .
Depends on exactly what you're referring to as ';the message of Peace';. Think of it more like a true martial arts master. You never fight unless the need is dire and truth and justice are at stake. Remember, it was Jesus who beat the living daylights out of the money changers in the Temple and quite literally whipped them and tossed them out. Too often people confuse Christ's messages for Pacifism, which is really just a diversion used to keep the real fight from being brought to evil's doorstep, simply because ';It's not PC';.
there is an Arabic proverb that says:


if you made good to some one generous you will own him, and if you made the same good for the mean, he will rebel against you!!





i think this might answer your question
This is a main problem of the ';Christian'; faith.





Good insight.





Jesus wants peace, joy, and love.





Why can't we see that?


I don not know.





This is the essential problem I face with the loose term, ';christain.';


Too many hyppocrites.





If all Christians as they call themselves, did love one another and all others, well, there would ba way more joy and peace.





This is duty.


The call of the collective conscious called God the father.


The law.


Spread love.





Love is the opposite of hate.


Very simple.





Jesus told again and again of parables, stories, examples.


He led a, ';perfect'; life inorder for us to see.





This is the paradox of life.





Good for you for figuring it out and asking it in the form of a question.





The answer is it shouldn't be.


Peace, love, and tolerance should not be a false doctrine.





I leave you my peace, joy, and love.


The greatest....


Love.
Ah, but there is a bit more to it than that.





';My kingdom is not of this world.'; Maybe the most misused quote to get around what you should do according to Christ.





There is no doctrine according to Jesus. Churches make doctrines and alter them when society demands it.





YOU got to live and feel by his teachings. Never mind the others, just love them as you would yourself. That's 'all'.
When the Satanic verses came into play,';Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.'; (Surah 5:51).
Its not the teachings of Christ I think that bothers people its the Hypocrits trying to teach it to you or shove it down our throat! You cant preac or teach a message of peace, Love, and tolerance and not practice those things by putting down homosexuals amongst other people!
Tollerance is acceptance of the very sins that this world is committing. We are not to tollerate sin, but share the word of God with others and shine His light upon the sinner so they can see what they may be doing is a sin. We cannot expect God to adjust His word to our sinful ways here on earth, but we are to conform our ways to God's word. Tollerance is allowing our spiritual eyes to get adjusted to the sinful darkness of this world.


God does not look upon sin and the sinner let alone tollerate them.
LET'S GET IT RIGHT!...Jesus said, as quoted in Matthew10:34, 35 (NAS) - ';Do not think that came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father...(v 38) he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.'; Jesus drew a line in the sand...believe in and follow Him and you would be reconciled and have peace with God the Father (saved) and have access to eternal life in heaven; Love your family, friends and yourself more (your choice) and no peace with God. The ';sword'; would be the choice that would divide the two groups. The peace referenced is not world peace but personal peace. Jesus (God the Son) created and loves all things...He even went to the cross to pay the price for our sins...';greater love has no man than that he give up his life for his brother...';. He was tolerant of and loved the sinner but not of the sin. He taught us to forgive others... But did not teach us not to defend ourselves or that actions don't have consequences...Ecclesiastes 3:8 - there is ';a time for war and a time for peace.'; Make peace with God while you can...as the old German saying goes...';you're a long time dead';...and I'm certain you wouldn't want your soul and spirit to spend that eternity in ';the lake of fire.'; Peace, love and tolerance is not a false doctrine...it just has to be put into the correct context.
when people inhabited the earth. it's the way things are. people aren't perfect. peace, love and tolerance of others would be a perfect situation. have you ever seen a perfect situation? why do you think christians can make the world a utopia? read Matthew 10:34-36. It's not all about peace.
its always been false, everyone thinks of self first, thats natural. we are animals. its just nature.
Yeah, and the people who crucified Jesus had prophets that told them that God desired mercy, not sacrifice





there is a reason why every person in history that has struggled for peace has been killed - most of the world WANTS violence, they want to hate and kill
That is so true.....I believe that humans have this innate desire to worship something, and throughout this 6,000 year period, God has just been trying to get someone to listen and do....





An interesting example of this is when Peter, James and John witnessed Christ on the mount of transfiguration, and Peter wanted to built an alter to Moses, Jesus and Elijah....God's reply was, ';This is my son....HEAR HIM.';
God doesn't exist.

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